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1975 CB550-four; rear taillight bulbs
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 04, 2011 9:41 am    Post subject: 1975 CB550-four; rear taillight bulbs Reply with quote

Embarassed how do you take these bulbs out? i am really concerned that i am going to pop one of these things in my hands. this may be a really dumb question to most on here but i really need to get this turn signal bulb that is blown, replaced.

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PostPosted: Sun Dec 04, 2011 11:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Push & twist, they are classic bajonet fittings Idea
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 04, 2011 11:26 am    Post subject: i am an idiot!!! Reply with quote

thank you very much... Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 04, 2011 12:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It might still be a good idea to wear leather gloves before you push & twist, or you could have your original concern come to pass. The bulb may be slightly (or heavily) corroded into place.
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 04, 2011 1:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

great idea... i will make sure to do that... i got 4 replacement 1157 dual filament bulbs for the turn signals and a 60/40 watt headlamp 7" at Oriellys Auto parts today... should be all nice and lit up tonight.
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 04, 2011 8:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Trentontiger wrote:
i got 4 replacement 1157 dual filament bulbs for the turn signals and a 60/40 watt headlamp 7" at Oriellys Auto parts today... should be all nice and lit up tonight.


I don't think you'll make it tonight. I believe your turn signal bulbs should be single filament, and you need to order the proper ones (correct wattage) from your Honda dealer (Stanley bulbs?). I think there are other posts on here regarding headlights. If not, someone is sure to chime in.
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 05, 2011 11:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

fxray wrote:
Trentontiger wrote:
i got 4 replacement 1157 dual filament bulbs for the turn signals and a 60/40 watt headlamp 7" at Oriellys Auto parts today... should be all nice and lit up tonight.


I don't think you'll make it tonight. I believe your turn signal bulbs should be single filament, and you need to order the proper ones (correct wattage) from your Honda dealer (Stanley bulbs?). I think there are other posts on here regarding headlights. If not, someone is sure to chime in.
You're correct. The turn bulbs are single filament. He'll find that out when he tries to insert the 1157s. The 1156 is the closest substitute for the correct Stanley bulb. The 60/40 car headlamp will fit and work, but the beam pattern is designed for a 2 lamp system. It'll be pretty ineffective at lighting the road.

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PostPosted: Mon Dec 05, 2011 6:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have since exchanged the dual filament with single. The new headlamp is brighter but I think its drawing too many watts because now my new 1156 bulbs only flash maybe once and freeze up. With the head lamp off they blink fine. Can I put 1156 leds in and help save watts for the other components?
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 06, 2011 6:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Trentontiger wrote:
I have since exchanged the dual filament with single. The new headlamp is brighter but I think its drawing too many watts because now my new 1156 bulbs only flash maybe once and freeze up. With the head lamp off they blink fine. Can I put 1156 leds in and help save watts for the other components?
The slow blinking is a symptom, but the 1156 bulbs by themselves probably aren't the cause. The 40-watt low beam probably isn't the cause either. True, the Stanley turn bulbs are 21-watt while the 1156 are 27 watt, but the battery and charging system should be able to handle that, especially because the turn bulbs aren't on very long or often during a ride. I'd suggest you check the condition of your battery and charging system output.

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I just happen to have this handy..... Wink


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PostPosted: Tue Dec 06, 2011 1:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

zjeppe wrote:
Push & twist, they are classic bajonet fittings Idea
Trentontiger wrote:
thank you very much... Rolling Eyes
Smile Anyway......I see you got the bulb out now. Just for future reference ,I would have wrapped it and broken it so I could get a hold of the rim of the base with a pair of needle nose pliers to push and twist it out or if need be, peeled the base out piece by piece. Shocked That is the 'classic' way to do it. Wink
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 06, 2011 6:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

dorT500 wrote:
zjeppe wrote:
Push & twist, they are classic bajonet fittings Idea
Trentontiger wrote:
thank you very much... Rolling Eyes
Smile Anyway......I see you got the bulb out now. Just for future reference ,I would have wrapped it and broken it so I could get a hold of the rim of the base with a pair of needle nose pliers to push and twist it out or if need be, peeled the base out piece by piece. Shocked That is the 'classic' way to do it. Wink


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PostPosted: Tue Dec 06, 2011 6:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sorry, my headlamp is a 60/50 watt sylvania. When the headlight is not on they work just fine. Blink at a good pace. Head light on and they are still freezing. Battery is just over a year old, still nice and clean. I have charged it on a 2amp trickle charge and still the same deal. Also higher rpm don't really help either.
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 06, 2011 7:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It really sounds like that shiny battery has failed and a real good chance the charging system isn't working either. When you turn on the headlights the battery is fading so fast it no longer has the amperage to make the turn signal relay switch on and off. Please put a meter on it and give us the details.
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 07, 2011 4:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Trentontiger wrote:
...Head light on and they are still freezing. Battery is just over a year old, still nice and clean. I have charged it on a 2amp trickle charge and still the same deal. Also higher rpm don't really help either.
If that battery didn't get much use and no charging by the previous owner, it would have been junk after less than 6 months - especially if the fluid level had been allowed to drop below the minimum level. If it's sulfated now, charging won't restore it much.

Aside from that, corrosion in the wiring connectors of the charging system is common, and it'll cause charging system output to be low. Follow Rizingson's suggestion to check the battery and charging system voltage. Use dorT500's chart after testing the battery - after it's been off the charger for more than an hour. Let us know what numbers you find.

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