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SEALING FUEL AREA

 
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tcanough
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 04, 2009 11:49 am    Post subject: SEALING FUEL AREA Reply with quote

What is the best stuff to use for sealing a new fuel cock to the exiting older tank . The petcock rubber seal will definitely not be enough. Don't know
what's popular now or fuel safe . Thanks for any help .
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Blue
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 05, 2009 1:36 pm    Post subject: the seal Reply with quote

Are you replacing with an oem replacement or adding a petcock designed for another application, Is the old seal bad? You can buy gasket rubber and fabricate one. If it's just a slightly worn seal and you are reusing it maybe an anarobic gasket maker would work, not sure I'm getting your ? straight in my head........Blue
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 05, 2009 7:28 pm    Post subject: HELLO BLUE ; Reply with quote

Yes , I have ordered an NOS petcock for my yamaha 125 and have a tank that looks flawless , but , it
has been creamed or some form of tank sealer . What I have left is a pretty uneven and mostly paintless
surface that I'm afraid to mess with too much [AT THE PETCOCK] . The original petcock leaked at the o-ring ,
so I changed it . Now it leaks there and at the seal at the tank . I'm done rebuilding petcocks' and was wondering
what is out there like the old formagasket that would work in this situation . THANK YOU FOR THE RESPONSE .
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 06, 2009 8:01 am    Post subject: sealer Reply with quote

Why not try one of the older more established auto parts stores, you know, the ones that don't sell milk and candy bars. They may have an answer for you. I remember the old formagasket, might still be around, also maybe try a shot at the Honda site and ask about something called i think Honda -bond, If you replaced the O ring with a stock one it should be good and seal, I've had problems with hardware O rings, as they deteriorate, I think they are for water. Blue
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650hardtail
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 06, 2009 2:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

or some of the new fuel proof silicone may work...
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tcanough
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 06, 2009 6:31 pm    Post subject: Thanks' for the posts Reply with quote

My biggest problem is that I'm still back in the 70's , can't find formagasket , no one sells
semichrome and I'm lost with the new products . Rtv was recomended and also the HONDA BOND
should also work . On the fuel cock I tried to take pieces from two different parts and make one , didn't
work [should have known better] . So now I'll wait for the new part from Speed and Sport and do it right .
One more question , what are you all using to get those engine cases so shiney ?
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 06, 2009 7:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

http://vjmog.com/ftopict-3426-case.html+polishing

http://vjmog.com/ftopict-2994-case.html+polishing

http://vjmog.com/ftopict-1117-case.html+polishing

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PostPosted: Tue Oct 06, 2009 7:35 pm    Post subject: THANKS' FOR THE INFO. Reply with quote

It seems after reading the posts that perhaps a combo of removing the old finish , wet sanding and a follow up
with mothers . Thanks again !
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KirkN
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 07, 2009 6:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yep, that's the ticket:

1. 'Aircraft stripper' to remove the clear-coat (or what's left)
2. wet sand - as many steps as you like - 400, 600, 1000, 1500
3. buffing wheels on bench grinder - white, then red compounds
4. Mother's or Meguiers, etc.

The final finish will be directly related to your thoroughness, or how anal you are, with steps 2 and 3, and there's no real substitute for elbow grease... Very Happy

Kirk
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Blue
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 07, 2009 9:18 am    Post subject: polishing Reply with quote

I'm a big mothers fan, I've seen simichrome around someplace but have also seen Flitz, which id quite similer. I also like "Blue Away" and Lustre Lace in the wide version, great on spokes and other small applications........Blue
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 07, 2009 6:13 pm    Post subject: THANKS' MUCH FOR ALL THE INFO ! Reply with quote

Why does it always come down to elbow grease ? Ya , the first step is a plan and then elbow grease in conjunction with the right products .
I hope to post some pictures soon of some shinney aluminum thanks to all of your help . But , I'm not polishing a thing on this bike untill it starts.
I will try to acomplish that this weekend or this thing will be for sale to good home !!
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 08, 2009 7:43 am    Post subject: tip Reply with quote

A quick tip, don't get the aircraft stripper on your sidecovers or for that matter anything plastic, fibreglass, etc. as it will become time to find new ones........Blue
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