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I don`t know about you guy`s but I do know that just about all of these chopped up bikes stand a rats *** of passsing any kind of a mechanical to be placed on the road ...at least where I am..
I see it as more of an expression. I am in the process of building a bobber myself I have owned factory bikes and don't though I personally dont like the occ type stuff either. I am building my bike as more of a tribute to my time spent in the military. I have been into the bobber look ever since I could remember. I have chopped the s!@# out of my bike and I would put its safety and mechanics up against any bike out there. I dont hardly think that just because someone has chopped their bike means that they are part of a fad or that their tools should be taken away or even that their bike is unsafe. Its all a matter of personal taste just as Chip Foose mods cars.
Joined: Nov 02, 2008 Posts: 1087 Location: New Zealand
Posted: Wed Apr 06, 2011 10:20 pm Post subject:
Trouble with vehicles that are 'an expression of personal taste' being allowed to share public roads with the great masses is that the somewhat less than objective builders and owners of these undoubtedly loved artifacts of personal expression are not in an objective mental space to assess what risk their creation poses to themselves, to me,to you and to our loved ones, when used on public roads. We have such creations here too,and the incredibly strict testing and certification regime for everyday vehicles is for reasons I cannot support relaxed for these vehicles.
I admire creativity.I respect difference...but art works IMHO should not be confused with transport.A vehicle licensed for the road should be safely capable of all of the competencies legislation requires of modern vehicles.By all means build and enjoy your expressions of personal taste just don't expect me to believe that it steers, drives,brakes and carries passengers with anything like the competence and safety the original you have re-shaped had.
Joined: Jul 10, 2008 Posts: 1639 Location: Galveston County, Tx.
Posted: Fri Jun 03, 2011 4:33 pm Post subject:
OK.... I read over these posts pretty quickly and did not see any mention of how it might cost less money(maybe I overlooked mention of cost) to bob/cafe some of these bikes with brand new non stock parts than to bring them back to original or close to condition. It is their bike/experiment and they can do whatever they want but surely the cost plays a major part in putting some bike in ride-able / 'flipping it' condition, hopefully, for profit and if it does not turn out like they had pictured in their minds. I am out of the loop on the whole process. Late members' Blues' Honda 350 bobber I liked and also realized , from his comments, that the original bike was severely damaged. Being a purist as far as these old bikes are concerned...I am not sure why I liked it so much....I guess because it was just so...forgive an old school term....'bodacious' ..or maybe it was because I knew he loved the end product so much, the "Little Guy' as he referred to it. (He was very tall) Either way, there will be some original parts leftover in various condition in all this bobbing going on and surely will be made available to us parts seekers sooner or later....sometime....somewhere.
Joined: Oct 26, 2007 Posts: 1143 Location: Greensburg Pa
Posted: Fri Jun 03, 2011 7:16 pm Post subject:
Thank you for posting those pictures. I had forgotten about that bike. I, like some others here, prefer to keep these vintage bikes in an original or near original condition, but I remember quite well when Blue first posted those pictures ( I think he had help ) I was very impressed with the styling of his creation. I found his bike to be beautiful interpretation of a bobber.
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Joined: Jul 10, 2008 Posts: 1639 Location: Galveston County, Tx.
Posted: Fri Jun 03, 2011 7:43 pm Post subject:
05c50 wrote:
Thank you for posting those pictures......( I think he had help )
I know....from his own comments in his progress he used the word "we" more than once. He himself was a retired welder(fabricator also?.... Comes with the territory somewhat usually)) and with a man like that I think you would draw any other assistance on a project like that like flies on a watermelon. (Prep and painting, etc.)
Edit: Oh...you mean help on posting the pictures. Either way. it was my pleasure to teach him to post pics. I remember when ever he would learn any new task on a computer...he would do what he called a "happy dance". I always reminded him that there were many members that did not know how to post pictures and were shy about asking how to do it.
Let this be a reminder to those out their right now to just ask how and I will help as much as I can in pms or emails as to the 'how'. ( Right now...weekends only am I online.) I remember when, not that many years ago, I did not even know how to copy and paste a link. _________________ _________________________________
GONE.......WITH A PUFF OF SMOKE AND A BLUR OF SPOKE........
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Joined: Dec 23, 2009 Posts: 80 Location: Clinton Twp., MI
Posted: Sun Jun 05, 2011 5:31 am Post subject:
I don't get it either,
A friend of a friend brought me his '69 Triumph Bonneville bobber project to wire and do some minor fab work. OK, any work is money to be made but, he took a nearly perfect bike to make this..."thing".
The hardtail section he paid good money for, cants the rear tire about 3 degrees to the right. Apparently, their jig is out of square. When I pointed this out to the owner, he's not concerned stating he won't be riding it much (no kidding). I asked him how long he's had his cycle endorsement. Oh, he doesn't have one. I told him he's going to hurt himself or worse.
Some people just have to learn things on their own.
The sooner it leaves my shop, the better.
BTW, I told him this was a cash deal and I don't want any record of me working on it in case something bad happens.
Joined: Dec 26, 2007 Posts: 1283 Location: Scottsdale, Arizona
Posted: Sun Jun 05, 2011 6:03 am Post subject:
CBX-tras wrote:
A friend of a friend brought me his '69 Triumph Bonneville bobber project to wire and do some minor fab work. OK, any work is money to be made but, he took a nearly perfect bike to make this..."thing".
That's terrible news. The '69 Bonneville is probably the most valuable and sought after pre oil-in-frame model. There are plenty of rats laying around to make bobbers out of. Why destroy a nearly perfect original? Because he's admittedly not a motorcyclist - no sense of value or motorcycling history. Not to pass judgment on what you're doing, but I personally would not have taken on that particular job - partly because of the destruction of an iconic bike, and partly because of the potential liability if and when this concoction tosses him on the ground and stomps on him. If something happens and he lawyers up, you can bet they'll find a way to tie you to the bike.
Joined: Oct 02, 2006 Posts: 2051 Location: New Britian, CT
Posted: Sun Jun 05, 2011 6:28 am Post subject:
As someone who has been in the bike scene for over 10 years, first as an enthusist and later as someone involved with the business is that the car people are begining to get interested in motorcycles. So what this means is that you will see all sorts of mods done to these bikes, regardless of the bike's history and/or road safety. The plus side is that we got more people interested in the hobby. The bad news is that there will be more modified bikes, more expensive parts,etc. Honestly, we are all going to have to just deal with it.
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