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PostPosted: Tue May 25, 2010 5:34 pm    Post subject: Memorial Day Reply with quote

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ervaMPt4Ha0

http://www.arlingtoncemetery.net/tombofun.htm

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PostPosted: Tue May 25, 2010 5:59 pm    Post subject: MEMORIAL DAY TRIBUTE Reply with quote

Thank you for being the first to show our thanks' . I hope we never forget the sacrifices endured for the freedom we enjoy today . It came at a price !
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PostPosted: Tue May 25, 2010 6:03 pm    Post subject: Observation by Col. Oliver North Reply with quote

This is definitely worth watching . I hope I can post this link correctly . http://www.nragive.com/ringoffreedom/index.HTML
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PostPosted: Tue May 25, 2010 6:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I am posting this old...somewhat unrealated text...yet somewhat still true today but from another angle before I view the video you just posted. I will most certainly view the video. Thanks for posting it.

http://www.tysknews.com/Depts/Our_Culture/americans.htm

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PostPosted: Tue May 25, 2010 7:00 pm    Post subject: Sinclairs' tribute Reply with quote

As an american born of one Canadian parent , I have always had strong ties with my Canadian family . I know first hand that the Canadians have a place in their hearts and allot of respect for the United States . I found this very relevant as the United States is in a strong recession and the dollar is taking it's licks once again . I remember the Sinclair tribute back when I was in H. S. , but had forgotten about it . Wonderful post !!
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PostPosted: Tue May 25, 2010 7:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thank You for recognizing that what I meant by typing "from a different angle" what was actually from a totally different 'longitude and latitude' swath than Canada. Wink
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PostPosted: Wed May 26, 2010 6:35 am    Post subject: Our hobby & Veterans Reply with quote

I have come to find out that our passion of vintage Japanese motorcycles is not shared by older Veterans that served in WWII. It was the Japanese that bombed Pearl Harbor and killed thousands of Americans in the Pacific wars trying to secure air fields in the Pacific to launch a take over of the world. And it was the Americans that fought and went thru hell to secure most of those islands so that would not happen. The Japanese were relentless with Kamikaze pilots and no regard for their own lifes. I have respect for those American Veteran soldiers and understand that we must be gentle and kind when Japanese motorcycles come into conversations with those veterans. My generation just doesn't understand.
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PostPosted: Thu May 27, 2010 10:26 am    Post subject: Re: Our hobby & Veterans Reply with quote

Steve Searles wrote:
I have come to find out that our passion of vintage Japanese motorcycles is not shared by older Veterans that served in WWII. It was the Japanese that bombed Pearl Harbor and killed thousands of Americans in the Pacific wars trying to secure air fields in the Pacific to launch a take over of the world. And it was the Americans that fought and went thru hell to secure most of those islands so that would not happen. The Japanese were relentless with Kamikaze pilots and no regard for their own lifes. I have respect for those American Veteran soldiers and understand that we must be gentle and kind when Japanese motorcycles come into conversations with those veterans. My generation just doesn't understand.


Hmm.... treading lightly when discussing Japanese products for what occurred 70 years ago?

Hmmm.... you're right. I just don't understand.


And bringing up sordid details of one particular enemy doesn't seem to be in the spirit of Memorial Day. I mean, we remember and greatly honor what our Veterans give/gave to/for the country, but we don't generally harp on the particular atrocities of the Germans, the Austro-Hungarians, the Japanese, the Germans again, the Italians, the Koreans, the Chinese, the Vietnamese, the Kurds, the Somali warlords, the Iraqis, the Afgans, etc etc.

Hmmm.....
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PostPosted: Thu May 27, 2010 10:43 am    Post subject: Memorial Day Reply with quote

No we, or at least I will never understand because I have never been in the service or at war in the trenches. I can't even imagine laying in the dark on a remote island in the pacific when the top military officers made the decision not to send troop reinforcements. And... the Japs were landing and launching an attack the very next day! Sleep...I don't think I could have. Then to get ambushed by the Jap's and your buddies next to you are killed and you somehow survive. Approximately 450,000 Americans died in WWII. I cannot even imagine that nor can most of our (baby boomers) generation. If asked, I may not have had the courage to charge the shores of Normandy only to have at least half of the troops get killed that day. We NEVER, NEVER want that type of war & violence ever to happen again!
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PostPosted: Thu May 27, 2010 10:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Understood and agreed with 100%.

But, as you say, I can't relate at all to the idea of tying those experiences to consumer products.

Shy away from BMWs because of Normandy? Stay away from Kymco scooters or Lifan motorcycles because of Korea? Hmmm......
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PostPosted: Thu May 27, 2010 11:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Kirk ,

It's simply a tactful and respectful courtesy . We have no idea what will trigger that deep seated auto response that gets permanently ingrained in a soldier that has been through life threatening encounters .

I know a vet that seemed every bit contented with life . One morning he , his brother and I were having coffee at a local spoon when a thunder storm came up . One very sudden and close flash and crack of lightening , which momentarily cut all power , immediately ( I mean without a fraction of a seconds pause ) put the vet into fight for life mode . He had instantly grabbed his brother by the throat and was coming down hard with his fist on the brothers face when his brother yelled his name and he snapped back to the current time .

To him , that flashback was as real as if it was actually happening . It was very obvious that he was not faking it . No one can act that good , that quickly . The eyes don't lie .

I don't mind telling you , that for me , just seeing that experience was bad enough let alone having to go through it in my own being .

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PostPosted: Thu May 27, 2010 11:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

*EDIT* - nevermind.

Back to the topic - thanks to all veterans for serving your country when called upon! It can be a $hitty job, and you did it. Thank you.

Kirk
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