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79 CB750 a few questions

 
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TireSmoker
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 10, 2010 12:21 pm    Post subject: 79 CB750 a few questions Reply with quote

Hi, I have a few questions, been searching, reading, if you can shed some light for me, thank you!

My bike idles fine when cold, but sometimes wants to idle very high when warm. I can get the idle to drop by blipping the throttle, but this is causing a rideability issue for me. I have the idle speed adjusted to about 900/1000 (cold), but when it heats up and goes high it will only drop to 2-3000. Is this a manifold leak kind of thing? It doesn't misbehave all the time....

This morning, the bike wouldn't rev over about 6500 - it was just sort of suddenly choking out or exceeding it's ignition. Ran pretty good otherwise, but I tried to push it up there a few times and she wouldn't go. Reminds me of an electronic rev limiter. What's up with that?

Is anybody gonna be at Oley or Rhinebeck this spring, who wouldn't mind listening to my engine and telling me it's ok? Smile I just don't really know what I should be hearing, and if I'm hearing things I shouldn't be.

Thanks,
Dave
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 10, 2010 1:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dave,
1st off and most importantly, your valves need to be adjusted.
Next your carbs need to be synchronized to your poorly running because it has been neglected engine.
Your charging system just took a dump on you and it is most likely the rotor that went bad.
If you want to give me a call so I can walk you through the tests to check your charging system if you have a digital multi meter, my numbers are;
818-769-5394
818-259-8690

You should be over on www.cb750c.com where the web site is dedicated to the 79-83 DOHC 4 cylinder Honda of which your 750 is included.

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PostPosted: Thu Mar 11, 2010 4:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dave,

Sounds like it's running too lean but without knowing the state of everything else it would be difficult to diagnose, as Ray said there is a process of elimination that you will have to follow. If you haven't already called Ray I would as you will save time and money, both things that most of could do with more of. Laughing

Good luck

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PostPosted: Thu Mar 11, 2010 6:40 pm    Post subject: Honda 750 idel Reply with quote

I would not blame the carbs until you check ingition and timing these bikes are very sensitive to point timing if your points are not opening enough or set wrong you will get bad running issues.Honda motors will start and run no mater how bad someone sets them up but to reach designed function at 9grand you have to have everything in proper setting.If ignition proves to be right on then move to carbs and yes check valves also set cam chain for tension you dont want motor to jump timing. Good luck Fast Honda California.I really think Honda motors are the best made in the 60s 70s Cool Cool
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 12, 2010 6:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

you wont wont find points on your 750..it's electronic

follow ray's advice
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 12, 2010 10:22 am    Post subject: Re: Honda 750 idel Reply with quote

fasthonda wrote:
I would not blame the carbs until you check ingition and timing these bikes are very sensitive to point timing if your points are not opening enough or set wrong you will get bad running issues.Honda motors will start and run no mater how bad someone sets them up but to reach designed function at 9grand you have to have everything in proper setting.If ignition proves to be right on then move to carbs and yes check valves also set cam chain for tension you dont want motor to jump timing. Good luck Fast Honda California.I really think Honda motors are the best made in the 60s 70s Cool Cool

This is a DOHC Honda and it does not have points, it is electronic ignition and the timing gets set once at the factory and never ever under any circumstances touched again unless you are installing a Dyna 2000 programmable ignition system.
The problem on dudes bike now is the carbs and the charging system, there is no questioning me or my sound advice.

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PostPosted: Fri Mar 12, 2010 10:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

and make sure all of your charging sytem parts are good...battery-rectifier-stator-rotar generator-

i believe if you put a new rotar generator on, and have other parts bad, it will just be a waste of money
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 13, 2010 3:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I will be at Rhinebeck, and you can ask me questions about Hondas, that is if you can find me. But if you are looking for DOHC stuff I definitely will not have it with me. Best to check everything out starter, chargeing system etc on those bikes.
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 13, 2010 10:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for the replies, guys.

I will start with valve adjustment. I have the factory manual, and I'm about to read how to do it.

Ray - thanks for the offer, I will definitely call you about the charging system, after I have the valves done, and the carbs sync'd.

Definitely appreciate the info from all y'all.

Dave
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