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Stuck Clutch remedies
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jvandyke
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 07, 2010 2:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Russell wrote:
Your description of the stiff 'locking screw' as you described it confirms for me that your real problem is in the actuating mechanism not in the clutch basket. The way your plates only needed fingers to separate them is totally normal,at least it is exactly as every motorcycle clutch I've looked at was.Cheap impact drivers are so effective eh...took me a long time to get past the idea that I was brutalising the bike...now I just do it.


I meant the locking screw for the clutch adjuster on the engine case. Locking screw came loose fine but that large disk with slot would not budge. I will mess with it all some more. I suppose I could take my new impact driver to it.........not just yet.

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PostPosted: Sun Feb 07, 2010 6:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm not that familiar with that big slotted dished disk but there is a similar arrangement on my CB175 and I recall that only a very slight alteration of that adjustment makes a big difference in how far the clutch pushrod gets pushed to release the clutch.I also recall it being easy to turn- until all the freeplay is taken up.
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 08, 2010 1:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

This is the thing won't move for me.
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 08, 2010 5:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Have you taken that cover off and looked underneath at the clutch pushrod mechanism and adjuster?Sounds like it needs a big clean-up.
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 08, 2010 5:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

No, I didn't take off the engine cover on the left side. I'll look up the procedure. I'm going to play with the cable too anyway.
Now that I know she runs well and shifts well and is worth the attention I am willing to dig deeper and throw some $$ at her.
That really was a great little run Sat. I loved it.

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PostPosted: Mon Feb 08, 2010 7:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

That cover over the front sprocket is easy to take off as no worries with sealing gaskets etc...you will find it quite straightforward to take off and the actuating mechanism easy to work on.Have fun.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 09, 2010 10:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I took a quick look at it last night and couldn't quite tell if the clutch cable has to come out or not. It seemed the cover was notched around the cable but it was dark and cold and I didn't feel like dealing with it at the time. Now that I'm at work, I'd rather be in the cold dark garage wrenching then sitting in the warm cozy "work place" With luck we'll have a snow day tomorrow and I can wrench all day long (I work in schools).
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 09, 2010 10:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

jvandyke wrote:
With luck we'll have a snow day tomorrow and I can wrench all day long (I work in schools).

A snow day, what's that?
I think the last time schools were closed here was January 17th 1994 for the Northridge earthquake.

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PostPosted: Tue Feb 09, 2010 10:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'll gladly give up the 2 or 3 snow days a year to live in your climate.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 09, 2010 11:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

jvandyke wrote:
I'll gladly give up the 2 or 3 snow days a year to live in your climate.

I said those very same words Thanksgiving Day 1993 and have not looked back since.
I am from Long Island where I lived until I was 31, I don't miss anything but, the water.
Now, I can't breathe so well and the water needs to be filtered just to take a shower but, I am happy.

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PostPosted: Thu Jan 27, 2011 7:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It has been exactly a year since this post was active.
I rode the bike periodically all summer. Clutch was stiff all season and almost every time I got the bike out it was stuck and needed a duck paddle start to break loose. I drove it to Detroit and back (500 miles or so) Up to Northport and back (another 500 mile day).
It was awesome and I'm looking forward to ALOT more riding this year.

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the overly stiff clutch is on the punch list for spring work, re-reading this thread I think I need to crack into the left side and check whatever mechanism is in there, maybe a new cable is wise too. It works fine and shifts fine but if I ever get caught in stop and go traffic jam I'm screwed, my left hand will be dead in 5 minutes.

I think I've decided to simply maintain this bike as is, not try to 'restore" or rat out. Just clean and polish and consider the battle scars as patina. There is a trend toward unrestored "patina'd" machines anyway it seems.

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PostPosted: Mon Jan 31, 2011 6:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jeff,I have seen that bike a few times through out the summer and have been impressed with both how well it ran,and the long day rides you've taken it on.
Knowing how much you enjoy it,I think you are making the right choice.

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