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Posted: Thu Dec 31, 2009 2:27 pm Post subject: Interesting
I think this might depend on your perspective (i.e. your age). Ask a few folks in their young twenties what they consider to be vintage and the reply might differ. I figured the VJMC's guidelines would serve as a pretty good reference point even though this site is not affiliated with that organization.
This might be a good thing to figure out and state up front if anyone here is going to be upset by discussing bikes that are too new (I really liked the looks of that '88 KLR 250 by the way). No worries here as many newer models (such as the Hawk GT like I own) have forums dedicated specifically to them.
Joined: Nov 18, 2009 Posts: 10 Location: Indianapolis, IN
Posted: Fri Jan 01, 2010 7:40 am Post subject:
Going by the standard of 25 and 35 years, my bike will be "antique" in exactly one year from today. That makes it a 1976 for those that don't want to do the math.
I am not sure 35 years makes my bike antique though but I definitely consider it vintage.
Joined: Nov 18, 2005 Posts: 246 Location: Michigan
Posted: Fri Jan 01, 2010 1:24 pm Post subject: Vintage Japanese Bikes Coming Into their Own
Having our Vintage Japanese bikes now AMCA eligible (all those made before
1976) opens a whole new level of judging for those who enjoy that part of our sport.
The AMCA has a long established Judging system that is used at all of their
national events. (See their judging manual link below)
You compete against yourself, in a 100 pt maximum system, with points,
or partial points deducted for improper parts installed, errors in assembly, etc.
We have really enjoyed our experiences at AMCA events in
Wauseon, Ohio, Rhinebeck, New York and especially at the AMCA "Big One"
in Davenport, Iowa each Labor Day Weekend.
Another plus is the beautiful solid wood trophies, the AMCA awards, with
sculpted metal motorcycles on the top.
AND .... there is NO CHARGE to enter your bike and be judged! Enter
your bike for judging and it is FREE. Just another option for vintage bike
activities from Florida in February to Iowa in September!
Here is some additional information -
"What is AMCA? - We could bore you with facts and figures, membership size, age of the club, etc.,
but what it all boils down to is this... having fun with Old Motorcycles! Networking in this club
means rubbing elbows and turning a few wrenches with fellow club members, 11,000 strong,
who share your passion for old bikes.
Enjoyment of this hobby can take many forms, depending on your level of interest. If detailed
restoration is your main concern, you will find club members with similar interests eager to lend a
hand. Assistance may come in the form of supplying that elusive part you've been searching for, or
answering technical questions such as the correct color for your machine.
Getting back to rubbing elbows, what better place than at one of the nine national meets spread
throughout the country. Here’s your opportunity to peruse the swap area, get a little silly participating
in the field games, or enter a bike for judging and perhaps earn your just reward for all
that sweat you spent on its restoration.
Perhaps feeling the wind in your hair is your idea of a perfect way to spend a lazy summer afternoon.
There's a local chapter of the Antique Club near you, filled with people who have wind blown hair
and the occasional oil stain on their boots.
If a longer ride would better suit you, sign up for one of the four annual national road tours. Here you
and the family can enjoy some beautiful scenery and put a few miles on your bike over a four-day period.
All club activities are designed so the entire family can participate.
Q. How does the AMCA define Antique?
A. The club defines “antique†as any motorcycle 35 years old or older. To participate in national
meet judging and road rides a machine must be 35 years old. But again ownership is not required to join the club.
Q. When was the club formed?
A. The club was founded in 1954 by a group of interested motorcycle owners. It now has a
worldwide membership of over 10,800. If all this sounds like fun to you...join the club!
Q. What is the object of the Antique Motorcycle Club?
A. The primary object of the AMCA is to encourage the seeking-out, restoration, preservation
and exhibit of antique motorcycles of all kinds regardless of country of origin."
Joined: Jan 04, 2010 Posts: 109 Location: Western Slope Colorado
Posted: Tue Jan 05, 2010 9:58 pm Post subject:
It seems every ad for a previously used bike has the words vintage and rare thrown around in the description...I thought every bike that isnt this year is vintage.....
Joined: Oct 03, 2005 Posts: 1595 Location: Marshall, MI
Posted: Mon Feb 01, 2010 10:56 am Post subject: Vintage Age
In answer to your question, I am trying to lean the club towards 25 years and older. Remember, this is just my take on it with no endorsement from anyone or any club. _________________ You only go around once in life, but if you do it right, once is enough!
Joined: Feb 11, 2009 Posts: 26 Location: Pennsylvania, USA
Posted: Mon Feb 01, 2010 3:07 pm Post subject: Re: Vintage Age
Steve Searles wrote:
In answer to your question, I am trying to lean the club towards 25 years and older. Remember, this is just my take on it with no endorsement from anyone or any club.
Steve, your unendorsed (but logical) position is firmly supported by at least one entity that I can think of... PennDOT.
PennDOT Antique fact sheet _________________ Bill in Yardley, PA
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Joined: Feb 01, 2010 Posts: 45 Location: West Kelowna, BC
Posted: Mon Feb 01, 2010 5:24 pm Post subject:
Here in the wilds of deepest British Columbia, the government auto insurers define any unmolested vehicle (aside from mods that are period-correct) as qualifying as a "Collector" if it is 25 years old, or 15 years if it is of a dis-continued make (i.e. Buell in a few years).
Thus the "collector" plates on two of my rides...saves a whack on insurance.
Joined: Oct 03, 2005 Posts: 1595 Location: Marshall, MI
Posted: Tue Feb 02, 2010 7:05 am Post subject:
I would like to hang with those chicks, dor. We could cause some trouble. _________________ You only go around once in life, but if you do it right, once is enough!
Joined: Jan 29, 2010 Posts: 15 Location: Charleston, SC
Posted: Fri Feb 26, 2010 12:45 pm Post subject: Re: Vintage-25 Years
Steve Searles wrote:
I personally, with no backing from any club or group am trying to define VINTAGE as a motorcycle that is 25 years old or older. Here is why. Back when people first started collecting and showing old JAPANESE motorcycles they were relatively new to the United States. Example: In 1975 and vintage bike was a 1960 Honda Benly. That was when the definition of vintage was 15 years or older. Now move time up some and in 1990, a 1970 Honda CB750 was considered vintage at 20 years or older. Now in 2010, if we stayed with 20 years a 1990 Kawasaki Ninja would be considered vintage. Do you see why we have to go to 25 years? Then leave it at 25 years just like antique cars and we are done. My vote is to make Vintage 25 years or older this year or next year. Again, this is just my personal opinion.
I think with automobiles, 25 years is considered a "Classic" and 30 years is an "Antique". But I'm with you, 25 years is "Vintage".
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