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'77 CB750A sprockets & chain

 
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Bikegeezer
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 19, 2011 6:43 am    Post subject: '77 CB750A sprockets & chain Reply with quote

Has anyone converted a '77 or '78 750 automatic to go from 630 to a 530 drive chain? The 15T front sprocket isn't available from any source, but Sunstar makes a conversion kit to install '76 sprockets. My concern is chain guard clearance.

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PostPosted: Wed Jan 19, 2011 6:56 am    Post subject: Re: '77 CB750A sprockets & chain Reply with quote

Bikegeezer wrote:
Has anyone converted a '77 or '78 750 automatic to go from 630 to a 530 drive chain? The 630-15T front sprocket isn't available from any source, but Sunstar makes a conversion kit to install the 530 '76 sprockets. My concern is chain guard clearance.

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PostPosted: Wed Jan 19, 2011 12:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Stu, as 530 is smaller than 630I guess clearance won't be an issue(yhen again I might be so wrong Embarassed )As for conversion the first CBX vs Prolink goes from 630 to 530 painlessly maybe check there for fitting frontsprocket. I have my rearsprockets for the Bimota custom machined in hardened adonized alu, very nice, endless possibilties and not that expensive (30 euro)With nowadays chainquality one might easily go even lighter.My 200 hp S1000RR has a 525 that on 12.000KM only needed a slight adjustment Wink Greetings & keep us posted,Jef.
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 19, 2011 4:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Stu, if you just need the front sprocket, there's a couple new aftermarket sprockets available on ebay. I know a guy who swapped out the chains without any problems.

..........Paul

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PostPosted: Fri Jan 21, 2011 10:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

05c50 wrote:
Stu, if you just need the front sprocket, there's a couple new aftermarket sprockets available on ebay. I know a guy who swapped out the chains without any problems.

..........Paul
Thanks Paul. Unfortunately, those sellers don't know what they're talking about. Neither JT nor Sunstar ever made front sprockets for the models using 630 chain. The Western Powersports catalog says they stock a JT sprocket. My dealer ordered it, and it wasn't even close. So what I'm doing is installing stock 530 sprockets and chain for a '76, and I'll shim out the rear sprocket to get correct alignment.

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PostPosted: Fri Jan 21, 2011 3:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sorry for the mis lead Stu. I was looking on ebay and saw the aftermarket ones listed, but I know that there is a guy that had an OEM nos spocket that he was trying to sell for a long time. I found it in one of the ebay "stores" when I was looking for mine. He listed it from time to time on the auctions, but it was always available in the store.

I do know a guy that retrofitted a 77 with a 76 chain with very little problem.

...............Paul

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�77 CB750a
�78 GL1000
�80 CB650c
�75 GL1000-finally finished
�79 KZ200
68 CB450K1-taking up all my time
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 21, 2011 6:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

05c50 wrote:


I do know a guy that retrofitted a 77 with a 76 chain with very little problem.

...............Paul
That's encouraging. I'll let you know how it works out. Thanks again.

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PostPosted: Tue Feb 01, 2011 6:14 am    Post subject: Worked out fine Reply with quote

I installed the stock sprockets and 104 link 530 chain for a '76 and didn't have to shim anything. Don't know what I was thinking. The teeth on a 530 sprocket are exactly the same width as on a 630 - only the distance between teeth and diameter of the rollers is larger. So no problemo, it all lined up perfectly.

Now, here's a tip for anyone else who needs to replace the 750A countershaft oil seal and outer trans cover gasket, both of which are unavailable. You can get a replacement oil seal that measures 3 mm thinner than the original. Install it just below flush in the case, and make sure the shaft bushing protrudes through the outer seal lip. I got the seal from Applied Industrial Technology. It's a TCM brand all rubber seal with double lip measuring 34x62x10. TCM part # 34x62x10TC-BX.

To install the outer cover with no gasket, first look at the pic below. The end of #10 protrudes from the hole in #1 and fits into a blind hole in the outer cover. The boss around that blind hole needs to be milled down around .010" to prevent #1 from binding up when the cover screws are tightened. Test first before installing the cover with sealer. With all cover screws tight, if the shift lever moves easily and its spring snaps it back when you release it, you're good to go. But if the shift lever feels like its binding (it's actually #1 that's binding), remove some more material from that boss inside the cover.

Clean the gasket surfaces of the cover and engine thoroughly, and smear a medium coat of Three Bond on the cover's gasket surface. Let it dry for around 10 minutes before sliding the cover on. Then tighten all 9 screws in a criss-cross pattern.

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PostPosted: Tue Feb 01, 2011 10:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for the info Stu. I had my side cover off a couple years ago and made a gasket from gasket paper (if I remember right), but it's good to have a number for a seal that Honda no longer supplies. I'm glad that the chain and sprocket worked out for you.

................Paul

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�77 CB750a
�78 GL1000
�80 CB650c
�75 GL1000-finally finished
�79 KZ200
68 CB450K1-taking up all my time
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