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Leland1 Weekend Warrior


Joined: Dec 06, 2010 Posts: 40 Location: Richland/Central Mississippi
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Posted: Mon Dec 06, 2010 2:18 pm Post subject: 1974 T500 Not Getting Juice |
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I picked up a 74 T500 from an OD storage shed for $50 last month. Hooked to a jump box the lights would come on when hot wired (had no key... abandoned) but no spark... need an ignition coil.
So the other day the wiring here rained on (seat was off) and now the lights don't work....
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KirkN Gear Head


Joined: Feb 23, 2007 Posts: 1044 Location: Orlando, FL
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Posted: Mon Dec 06, 2010 2:38 pm Post subject: |
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WAAAYYY to many variables in your very limited description of a bike that sat in an outdoor storage shed (for how long?) to make any guesses/speculations/advice at all.
Follow standard routine: check and clean all connectors, especially chassis and component ground connections. Get a good battery. Clean and set the points, including electrically testing for continuity when points are closed. On a bike that has sat outside, ALL the handlebar electrical stuff is highly suspect. In my experience, most of it won't work without some kind of intervention - clean, lube, reset.
Welcome aboard. Keep us posted with your progress. Give some more description of the bike, it's condition, what you've done to it, and yourself - what your knowledge and experience base is, etc.
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Leland1 Weekend Warrior


Joined: Dec 06, 2010 Posts: 40 Location: Richland/Central Mississippi
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Posted: Mon Dec 06, 2010 3:10 pm Post subject: |
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My experience... not too much...
I guess by points you mean the coil that goes over the stator? I cleaned them with a wire wheel dremel... I also cleaned the kill switch. I checked the points on the rectifier and they get juice. I'm thinking it may have something to do with the voltage regulator....
Put in a new set of NGK plugs, washed and shined all the pitted Chrome. De rusted tank, the neutral light came on when it felt like it when the lights did work...
Need any more info? Set the points? What's that mean? |
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Leland1 Weekend Warrior


Joined: Dec 06, 2010 Posts: 40 Location: Richland/Central Mississippi
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Posted: Mon Dec 06, 2010 3:12 pm Post subject: |
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| And it was in the shed for at least 5 years and was last tagged in 1982 |
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Russell Gear Head


Joined: Nov 02, 2008 Posts: 1085 Location: New Zealand
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Posted: Mon Dec 06, 2010 3:45 pm Post subject: |
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| Kirk meant clean and set the ignition points. |
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Leland1 Weekend Warrior


Joined: Dec 06, 2010 Posts: 40 Location: Richland/Central Mississippi
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Posted: Mon Dec 06, 2010 3:50 pm Post subject: |
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| Russell wrote: | | Kirk meant clean and set the ignition points. |
You mean the points on the ignition coil under the tank? I did clean those. |
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Russell Gear Head


Joined: Nov 02, 2008 Posts: 1085 Location: New Zealand
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Posted: Mon Dec 06, 2010 4:27 pm Post subject: |
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| I'd suggest you do some study of a manual, either hard copy or on-line. Important to have a general idea of what you are looking for,and what each part's function is, before you set about them with tools. |
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dorT500 Gear Head


Joined: Jul 10, 2008 Posts: 1639 Location: Galveston County, Tx.
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Posted: Fri Dec 17, 2010 10:37 pm Post subject: |
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| Russell wrote: | | I'd suggest you do some study of a manual, either hard copy or on-line. Important to have a general idea of what you are looking for,and what each part's function is, before you set about them with tools. |
Pop Quiz!
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GONE.......WITH A PUFF OF SMOKE AND A BLUR OF SPOKE........
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05c50 Gear Head


Joined: Oct 26, 2007 Posts: 1143 Location: Greensburg Pa
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Posted: Sat Dec 18, 2010 10:59 am Post subject: |
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| dorT500 wrote: | | Russell wrote: | | I'd suggest you do some study of a manual, either hard copy or on-line. Important to have a general idea of what you are looking for,and what each part's function is, before you set about them with tools. |
Pop Quiz!
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Okay, I'll take the quizz.....A and B are sparky thingys.....cause they spark when you move them; C and D are smokers, cause when you short them out, all the smoke comes out; E is a whatzit; F is a spinny thing- cause it goes round and round when you kick the pedal; and G and H are sparky thingy mounting plates.
Did I get them all right?
..........please excuse me, I'm waiting for paint to dry and have nothing better to do.
.......Paul _________________ �77 CB550f
�77 CB750a
�78 GL1000
�80 CB650c
�75 GL1000-finally finished
�79 KZ200
68 CB450K1-taking up all my time |
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Leland1 Weekend Warrior


Joined: Dec 06, 2010 Posts: 40 Location: Richland/Central Mississippi
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Posted: Sat Dec 18, 2010 11:15 am Post subject: |
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| A&b are points and c&d are condensers....... uh... right? |
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mixer Commuter


Joined: May 28, 2009 Posts: 423 Location: chicago area
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Posted: Sat Dec 18, 2010 11:45 am Post subject: |
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| 05c50 wrote: |
..........please excuse me, I'm waiting for paint to dry and have nothing better to do.
.......Paul |
guess you need better ventilation in that paint booth huh? _________________ No, actually I DONT sleep much, I have M.A.D.D (motorcycle attention deficit disorder, means i change bikes about twice a year) drink too much coffee, have too much energy and dont do much besides work and motorcycles. |
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Leland1 Weekend Warrior


Joined: Dec 06, 2010 Posts: 40 Location: Richland/Central Mississippi
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Posted: Sat Dec 18, 2010 6:41 pm Post subject: |
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UPDATE.
Went out today armed with a test light and jump box. Chased all the wires not getting juice to the fuse. Stripped the wire a little and it was getting juice from the rectifier but not past the fuse. The fuse was good when I checked it a few weeks ago. Still is today. I cut off the fuse housing and hard wired the two wires together. Now I have lights!
I feel stupid..... (doh!)
So if I get a new ignition coil and set of points it should get fire right? |
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dorT500 Gear Head


Joined: Jul 10, 2008 Posts: 1639 Location: Galveston County, Tx.
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Leland1 Weekend Warrior


Joined: Dec 06, 2010 Posts: 40 Location: Richland/Central Mississippi
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Leland1 Weekend Warrior


Joined: Dec 06, 2010 Posts: 40 Location: Richland/Central Mississippi
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Posted: Thu Dec 23, 2010 9:05 am Post subject: |
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Ok. The points had corrosion on them so I took em off and cleaned em. Finally picked up a multimeter last night. I unhooked the kill switch to be sure it wasn't grounding out. On the 200 ohm setting I took a couple wires and stuck them to the points where the plug of the stator coil plugs to the ignition coil and kicked it over. No change on the multimeter in every configuration I could think of.
What's my next move? Points and condensers? Stator coil? |
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