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kalvinklein
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 10, 2010 5:40 pm    Post subject: TS 185 Reply with quote

Hello everyone, I'm new here. Just got my father in laws old TS 185. I really want to restore it. When you kick it over, you can hear that the piston is moving freely. I'm thinking it just needs a carb cleaning, old gas pumped out, new gas pumped in, new oil, and new spark plug. Any advice would be great. Also where can I get parts for it other than e-bay. I ordered a used oil tank off e-bay today, but the parts seem kinda slim for a 79, and I'm not sure what years will also fit with it. Thanks for all your help in advance. Old school is really cool!!
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 10, 2010 7:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Welcome to the forum. I don't know anything about old Suzuki's, but lots of people on here do. I can tell you this though
-- it's a plus if you can "pump out" the old fuel. I had to break mine out in chunks! Laughing
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 10, 2010 7:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I might have a few things. But the guy to call for Suzuki parts is Paul Miller Suzuki in Kensington,CT.
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 10, 2010 9:10 pm    Post subject: Re: TS 185 Reply with quote

kalvinklein wrote:
Hello everyone, I'm new here. Just got my father in laws old TS 185....... Also where can I get parts for it other than e-bay. I ordered a used oil tank off e-bay today, but the parts seem kinda slim for a 79, and I'm not sure what years will also fit with it. .....
Always a good idea to check your local Suzuki Dealership first and then, in no particular order...

http://www.wemoto.com/bikes/Suzuki/TS_185_ERN/79-80/

http://www.modernmotorcycling.com/prt-main.htm

http://www.robinsonsfoundry.co.uk/content/pages/contact-robinsons-suzuki/suzuki-parts.htm

http://www.slickssalvage.com/vintage/index.html (I have no first hand dealings with them.)

http://www.cmsnl.com/suzuki-ts185_model14184/

http://www.suziparts.com.au/

http://fiche.ronayers.com/

http://www.bikelinks.com/directory/Parts/Salvage_Yards/Salvage_Yards_North_America/

A quick way to check if certain parts from other years will fit is to enter a OEM part number or bikebandits number into their search option at top right of page and click on 'fits machines'

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PostPosted: Wed Nov 10, 2010 9:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wow thanks for all the links. How hard is it to get parts shiped to the US? Do most of the out of country on line stores take pay pal?
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 12, 2010 6:54 pm    Post subject: Sure its a '79? I may be able to help. Reply with quote

I spent MONTHS redoing my '79, which I have owned since new. Are you sure its a '79? THey have blue tanks & fenders. I ask since carbs and even the engine changed in '79, which is the first year emissions controls were added. The carbs is different as are the head & cylinder, although I hear you can use older versions.

I've spent upwards of a year or more redoing mine & collecting parts.
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 13, 2010 9:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yup blue tanks and blue fenders. I started to figure out that the 79 is kinda a difficult year to rebuild since there arent as many parts online as other years, but I'm up for the challenge. I figure that if I can't get parts to make it a show room restoration, I'll make it into a nice trail bike.
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 13, 2010 8:24 pm    Post subject: You have a 1979 TS185 "N" model. It was a transiti Reply with quote

kalvinklein wrote:
Yup blue tanks and blue fenders. I started to figure out that the 79 is kinda a difficult year to rebuild since there arent as many parts online as other years, but I'm up for the challenge. I figure that if I can't get parts to make it a show room restoration, I'll make it into a nice trail bike.


There are more parts than you realize. Many from 77-78 and even '80 are interchangeable, although the '80 model is less so. Sometimes the numbers are different, but the part is essentially the same. Cylinders/Heads, for example, are different for 77-78, but supposedly can be used as they are in reality free flowing. Many other parts are interchangeable. I suggest you get a Zedder x-reference, as it is very helpful. Also, print full parts lists for the 77-78 models. I found www.alpha-sports.com very helpful.

One more thing- If you can find a copy of the '79 emissions supplement that too will help. If you can't (they are very hard to find). I can mail or fax you a copy. I've spend many months on this bike, so perhaps I can help.
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 13, 2010 9:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well I got the oil tank in the mail today only to relieze that it's not the oil tank that's broken on the bike, but the actuall metall part that bolts the tank to the fram Sad Oh well I'm gonna JB weld it, and it prob won't hurt to put a fresh oil tank in there, considering I have no idea how old that oil is. New week gonna pump out the gas, put fresh oil in it (does anyone know how much is supposed to go in), new spark plug and keep my fingers crossed Very Happy
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 14, 2010 7:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Weld the bracket. JB weld may not hold. Use good two stroke oil. If you need help PM me. I am just down the road off I-94. Smile
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 14, 2010 10:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

2-stroke oil? I would have never thought that. Can you get it in bigger jugs at the dirt bike stores, or do I have to buy a bunch of the little bottles like at home depot?
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 14, 2010 10:55 am    Post subject: Make SURE you use 2 stroke M/C oil!!! Reply with quote

kalvinklein wrote:
2-stroke oil? I would have never thought that. Can you get it in bigger jugs at the dirt bike stores, or do I have to buy a bunch of the little bottles like at home depot?


You must use appropriate 2 stroke oil in larger 1Qt & even 1 Gallon bottles meant for these bikes available at local M/C dealers. Otherwise, you'll fry the engine. I use Golden Spectro's full synthetic injection oil, but ordinary 2 stroke oil is fine, too.

Don't listen if someone tells you to take out the oil pump & use premix. While this might have worked on some older bikes, the word from Suzuki & others more knowledgeable than me was that such would, again, fry the motor. The injectors are meant to put oil where needed.
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 14, 2010 11:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for all the help everyone, I really appreciate it. This is my first rebuild/restoration.
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 16, 2010 10:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

OK everyone here is what's I've done so far. Put new spark plug in, got the petcock valve working with some penetrating oil, and new oil in the oil tank. Tried kicking it over last night put no joy. Can you buy just a plug wire, or do you have to buy the entire coil pack? If you have to buy the entire coil pack, is there a way to clean the old plug wire. Looked in there last night, and I seen a nice layer of rust where it meets the plug, so I'm assuming it's not getting spark.
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 16, 2010 10:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

cut a 1/4 inch off the wire and screw the cap back on.
now put the plug in the cap set it against the head and kick it over...you should have a bright blue spark.
If you do, awesome...put it back on the bike.
If you don't you have more searching to do.

you can get a new plug cap here.

http://www.reproductiondecals.com/default_frameset.html?content.html~main

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