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Joined: Jan 05, 2009 Posts: 622 Location: Michigan
Posted: Sun Apr 12, 2009 5:11 pm Post subject: G-tank
Don't know if this will help, but around here (South Bend, Ind.) area there is a company called Tuff Guy Enterprises on Ireland road' I have had them clean and coat tanks inside and they have done an excellent job. I am not sure what the "liner" you talk about is? The paint on the tank may be something you will need to do on your own turf, Auto stores sell an aviation stripper that will get rid of most paint on tanks and other METAL parts, I have allready made the mistake of trying it on a sidecover I USED to own, it now exists as a funny looking ball of something resembling a cowpie. I don't know if you can do the yellow pages thing and find a tank shop near you Tuff Guy does mostly radiators, but a radiator shop in your area may be able to help, good luck.....Blue
Joined: Jan 05, 2009 Posts: 622 Location: Michigan
Posted: Sun Apr 12, 2009 7:08 pm Post subject: I'm back
I now know what the tank sealer is, go to the sidebar on main menu and click on articles, there is an article there from Steve Searles, that mentions that sealer, read it and contact him, he may know how to get rid of it, again, hope this helps......Blue
Joined: May 30, 2006 Posts: 567 Location: west central il.
Posted: Sun Apr 12, 2009 7:49 pm Post subject:
once done id reccomend redcote brand, A lot of guys swear by it. _________________ 76xs650 78xs650 79xs650 ty175 mr175 cb550
projects xs11 cb400 rt360 cbf750 & a hodakEE.
Joined: Jul 10, 2008 Posts: 1638 Location: Galveston County, Tx.
Posted: Mon Apr 13, 2009 9:31 am Post subject: Re: Gas tank stripping , inside and out.
sabremanV65 wrote:
Can anyone recommend a process or company that can clean a gas tank inside and out , removing paint, rust and a failed Por-15 gas tank liner? Cost?
Have you contacted the Por15 company? I have never had to use any liner type coating yet, but do have a couple of salvage gas tanks that are probably likely candidates. My opinion on liners is you should not use them unless absolutely necesscary. From what I have read, after following the directions exactly and making sure the inside is completely dry after the initial cleaning........"people say that once you know it is dry...wait... and let it dry some more" before before going on to the liner process. Moisture was possibly the culprit in the "failure" of the liner or not a thin, complete and even coverage. As you may already know..Por15 is used on many things, from floors to car trunks, compartments. Hardness? I have read that people have had to use an appropriate style grinder to get it off where it accidentally got on something. Sandblast the inside....? I dunno..... This is why I would call the Por15 company for any suggestions...not complaining about their product but just telling them the situation and see if they have any suggestions. I know Por15 can be painted,etc., so maybe it can be redone as long as there are no open thin "pockets" that may trap debris or moisture.....see now I am starting to speculate...so If it were me, I would at least start with calling the Por 15 company. http://www.por15.com/POR-15/productinfo/1GB/ As mentioned earlier, a radiator shop that does tanks might be able to also add some input.
Joined: Oct 03, 2005 Posts: 1595 Location: Marshall, MI
Posted: Mon Apr 13, 2009 10:13 am Post subject:
Weird. POR-15 is as hard as a rock. Can't believe it failed. Maybe it is really a Kream tank liner system that failed. Kream is white while POR-15 is silver.
Joined: Jul 10, 2008 Posts: 1638 Location: Galveston County, Tx.
Posted: Mon Apr 13, 2009 10:27 am Post subject:
Good Point Steve....knowing the color of it to indentify the manufacturer will help in any inquiry. Don't know what tank it is, but may be cheaper, or less frustrating to buy another tank......
Joined: May 30, 2006 Posts: 567 Location: west central il.
Posted: Mon Apr 13, 2009 11:04 am Post subject:
ive got por in the yeller tracker and cream in a ty. with no probs yet. But ive sure heard a lot of negs on cream. _________________ 76xs650 78xs650 79xs650 ty175 mr175 cb550
projects xs11 cb400 rt360 cbf750 & a hodakEE.
Joined: Jan 05, 2009 Posts: 622 Location: Michigan
Posted: Mon Apr 13, 2009 4:48 pm Post subject: tanks, for the memories
Blue here again, hey, I used that cream stuff once years ago, phooey and so-long, good bye! I just redid the little peanut tank for my CL350 a month or so ago, it was full of rust and dented, a guy gave it to me when he saw the 350 in the shop, took it away from his kids as they were using it as a football. I scraped, sanded, filled the tank with 3 packs of BBs I bought at the gun shop, put in water and shook till my arms almost fell off, then I shook more. After all the scraping, etc. the tank had pinholes, so I cleaned the area by scraping with a file, till shiny, soldered them up. Then, next day rinsed with MEK twice and allowed to dry overnight, used redcoat and did other stuff, for a week, came back to the tank and using a radiator pressure test cap had it hold 15 psi 24+ hours. I like the redcoat..............Blue
Joined: Jun 17, 2008 Posts: 44 Location: Somonauk, IL
Posted: Mon Apr 13, 2009 5:31 pm Post subject:
It's the silver stuff, peeling off the upper areas of the tank in a sheet. I don't use these sealers, I've never thought they were necessary. POR-15 has a liquid stripper on their site, but don't actually say it will remove POR-15, and it's too pricey to try.
Joined: Jul 10, 2008 Posts: 1638 Location: Galveston County, Tx.
Posted: Mon Apr 13, 2009 6:30 pm Post subject:
sabremanV65 wrote:
It's the silver stuff, peeling off the upper areas of the tank in a sheet. I don't use these sealers, I've never thought they were necessary. POR-15 has a liquid stripper on their site, but don't actually say it will remove POR-15, and it's too pricey to try.
They have a toll free number...if it is coming of that easy......in sheets.....sounds like the tank was not turned around in every direction in the pre wash process....maybe not a pre wash done at all by the previous owner....fill that sucker with lacquer thinner for a few days.?.....See what happens...?.....I don't know if that would be safe..as far as a chemical reaction, etc.....You might be able to save this tank yet.....I would call their toll free number and talk to their support division. Hope everything works out for you.
Joined: Oct 03, 2005 Posts: 1595 Location: Marshall, MI
Posted: Thu Apr 16, 2009 5:54 am Post subject: Renu Sucks
A guy used RENU. They don't have a clue on motorcycle gas tanks. They sand blasted the inside by cutting (4) 3" dia. holes in the tank. Sand everywhere in cracks everywhere. Then welded the holes back up. Rougher than a cobb. Then they sandblasted the outside of the tank and warped the metal because of the pressure and heat from the sand. You could never sand out all the dimples. Looks like shit. RENU said that will be just fine. Wrecked a decent tank. CLUELESS! I had to throw away that tank for the 74 Suzuki TS185 enduro I was restoring. $150. Pissed? Yes.
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