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22hornet
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 02, 2009 3:51 am    Post subject: Electronic ignition for CB-350 Reply with quote

Hello friends. I am new to the forum, and have a guestion about electronic ignition conversion kits for my wife's CB-350 Twin. I'm considering the Pazon kit. Do any members have any experience with aftermarket conversions for these motorcycles?
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 03, 2009 6:50 am    Post subject: Re: Electronic ignition for CB-350 Reply with quote

22hornet wrote:
Hello friends. I am new to the forum, and have a guestion about electronic ignition conversion kits for my wife's CB-350 Twin. I'm considering the Pazon kit. Do any members have any experience with aftermarket conversions for these motorcycles?
No knowledge of the Pazon kit, but I understand this kit from Boretec works well. I'll probably buy one. http://www.bore-tech.com/Vintage%20Motorcycle%20Ignitions.html
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 03, 2009 1:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks, Bikegeezer. I checked out the system offered by Bore-tech, and it looks good. The advantage of the Pazon kit is that it comes with coils, and the kit offered by Bore-tech doesn't. I think I'm going to purchase the Pazon system. I'll post here with results and my opinion of it when I get it installed. Stay tuned(no pun intended)...and thanks for the response. I really like those 60's and 70's Honda twins. Simple, reliable, and easy to ride. That is what a motorcycle should be.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 03, 2009 7:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

A tangent so I hope you don't mind me asking readers a question. I have a new Dyna ignition that I intended for my 79 GS750E.This has a sensor that goes in place of the points and utilises the existing coils. I fitted it as per instructions and it started and ran...but not with nearly the power and torque that it should. I unhooked it and re-installed the points and normality was restored. I wondered whether 29 years had seen the stock coils in some way deteriorate such that they didn't complement the Dyna kit?No didn't measure anything. Has anybody got any direct experience of this?I'm trying to decide whether to on-sell the Dyna kit or whether to get Dyna coils as well and try again. Any insights or opinion appreciated.
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 04, 2009 10:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Russell wrote:
A tangent so I hope you don't mind me asking readers a question. I have a new Dyna ignition that I intended for my 79 GS750E.This has a sensor that goes in place of the points and utilises the existing coils. I fitted it as per instructions and it started and ran...but not with nearly the power and torque that it should. I unhooked it and re-installed the points and normality was restored. I wondered whether 29 years had seen the stock coils in some way deteriorate such that they didn't complement the Dyna kit?No didn't measure anything. Has anybody got any direct experience of this?I'm trying to decide whether to on-sell the Dyna kit or whether to get Dyna coils as well and try again. Any insights or opinion appreciated.
Hi Russell,
Do you have a Dyna S or a Dyna III? All the Dyna kit does is replace the function of the points and condensers with solid-state switching. But the coils' primary resistance has to comply with with the requirements listed on Dyna's website. Otherwise, current flow may be insufficient to saturate the coils. I know that some of their kits come with resistors that you wire in parallel with the coils to reduce primary resistance. The guys at Dyna are really helpful on the phone. Give 'em a call.

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PostPosted: Wed Feb 04, 2009 12:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Stu,thanks, its a Dyna S,and the guff says needs 'at least 3 ohms primary resistance'. Your info tells me the coils are the place to investigate. I'll take your advice and contact Dyna.
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 11, 2009 9:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hello- I'm new to this forum- I am also considering the Pazon igntion kit for my 72 cb350 twin. It does look like a good deal, considering it comes with coils and plug wires. While it does come with a 7 1/2 year warranty (what's a half a year? 182 1/2 days?) I hesitate a little, only because it's coming from New Zealand, and I wonder what support would be like. I'd appreciate any stories/info regarding the Pazon ignition.
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 11, 2009 4:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi:
Kinda new to the forum also, I'm getting the bore tech kit put on mine too, as well as other motor work. The motor is still at the shop. I told them to check if I'd have to upgrade my coils. Has anyone put the bortec kit on? Did you have to switch coils? Thanks.

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PostPosted: Mon Feb 16, 2009 12:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well, I went ahead and purchased the Pazon system. Shipping from New Zealand was about 6 days. Not bad. The instructions are straight forward, and the components are compact. I mounted the coils on the original bracket. I made a small plate that I attached the coils to, and attached the plate to the existing coil mounting bracket. I mounted the control box(about the size of a cigarette package) to the side of the original tool box on the bike with a large cable tie. It fits nicely, and is out of the way. A quick glance at the LED light on the box tells me that the ignition is on.

I had a question about the unit as I was installing it, and I called them. Andy(tech support) returned my call right away, and talked me through the problem.( Installer error!) E-mail access has been good as well. The bike runs great! It idles at 1200 RPM, and runs well through the entire advance curve. I would recommend this ignition system. I plan on installing one on my '67 Bonneville. I'll report on this forum if any problems arise...but so far, so good. Now...about those carbs!
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 16, 2009 8:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks, 22hornet- you've encouraged me, and I'm looking forward to more posts!
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 16, 2009 9:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

22hornet wrote:
Well, I went ahead and purchased the Pazon system.
Did you get the standard advance curve or their "racing" advance curve? I really like the design of this Pazon unit, and the coil thrown into the deal makes it a bargain.

Stu
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 16, 2009 12:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Figures I went with Bore Tech.
Can't pass up a chance to spend more money than I have too Confused Then again I hadn't heard of the Pazon kit when I ordered late last fall. At least I know that the Bore Teck kit works well, from the people I know who are using it, even if it is more expensive, and coil-less.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 17, 2009 1:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bikegeezer;
I purchased the "road" package. The bike belongs to my wife, and she doesn't need the race application. I'm still messing with the carbs. I took the bike for a spin today between rain showers. Lots of power through the gears, but a misfire occurs at higher speeds. Too much main jet, perhaps. The process continues...
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 17, 2009 4:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well, you're way ahead of where I am. The engine is just starting to go back together. I need to win the lottery, so I can quit work and spend more time with what I really like doing. Rolling Eyes

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 28, 2009 10:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I had never heard of the Pazon kit either when I purchased the Probe Engineering, Inc. BT-05E kit from Bore-Tech. It was pricey but I was fed up with the points and I wasn't ready to go to a race-only magneto ignition as I still plan to run on the street. Bill and Kelli at Bore-Tech have been very helpful. They recommended the proper Dyna coils to me (the green ones) and have offered prompt and courteous customer service via e-mail and phone. That alone was worth the price! I'm happy to hear you've also received good support from Pazon. It's nice to have options.
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